How many threads do i need?

Ac
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I have a Ryzen 5 3500x, which has 6 cores and 6 threads.

However, in my games there are often fps drops, most often in Fortnite.

Should I buy a new processor and if so, which one?

no

I wouldn't do it (not worth it in most games). But if you really want to upgrade then I would go to a Ryzen 5 5600X.

bu

Most games only use 4-6 cores so far. Upgrading is currently not worth it.
It's probably because of the cooling

Cl

This exotic should really only be for Asia, how did the Denn get here?

Otherwise I agree with the opinion of my colleague BlockenOwnz.

Em

What do you mean by exotic, like the Ryzen 5 3500X?

https://www.mindfactory.de/...77259.html

https://www.mindfactory.de/...78582.html

It is officially available to buy here in the country, as you can see.

Vi

Drops can be versatile (not just CPU dependent).

RAM too low

GPU too weak.

Internet line.

Heat problems.

Etc.

Weaken HDD / SSD

Determine your problem area, most populated with MSI Afterburner, and let inGame show you via OSD what causes your drops.

Cl

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/53012-amd-ryzen-5-3500x-im-test-sonderfall-fuer-asien.html

Em

Yes I know. I had read that too almost a year ago. But the borders are not 100% tight and trade is more or less free. Then it is mostly just a matter of time before something specific for Asia arrives here, especially since it is not illegal either. Regardless of how it may be, the exotic is no longer an exotic one. Incidentally, Mindfactory has been around for almost six months.

Cl

Yes, for me, why not. There are so many AMD CPUs that are actually superfluous with 0.1 Mhz less or more that it doesn't matter anymore.

Ac

Isn't there with GPU games like Apex so I don't have any FPS drops and games are on HDD and how exactly do you do that with MSI Afterburner isn't that something to overclock?

Em

The missing SMT units of the Ryzen 5 3500X give it a performance loss of 15-20% compared to a Ryzen 5 3600 processor with SMT, i.e. With 6 cores and 12 threads. This may be noticeable in the overall frame rates, but it shouldn't be to blame for heavy frame drops. Upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 is therefore hardly worthwhile. In principle, this would give you a few more FPS, but the frame drops shouldn't go away. You may have too little RAM or too many applications running that are filling up the RAM, so that parts of the RAM's content have to be relocated to the hard drive again and again. This means that severe frame drops can be explained earlier. You need more threads and cores if you capture and stream your games live, as this can also eat up a lot of computing power. In that case, you should also use an 8 core, like the Ryzen 7 3700X / 3800X processor.

You would have even more computing power with a Ryzem 5 5600X or Ryzen 7 5800X, but they have a worse price / performance ratio compared to the Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 3700X / 3800X processor. The Ryzen 5 5600X, for example, would have about 30-50% more computing power than your Ryzen 5 3500X, but it costs 100% more, i.e. Twice as much. Not a good swap unless you are dependent on every percent of the computing power. But if you want to afford and indulge yourself, then upgrading to a Ryzen Series 5000 processor is most likely to be worthwhile, as the highest possible increase in performance can be expected, even if the price / performance ratio is not that great. A prerequisite for such a processor is that it is also supported by the mainboard.

Which mainboard is in your PC?

PS: It may help if you turn down the texture filtering and anti-aliasing in the games. That consumes a lot of computing power on the graphics card.

Ac

I have a RX 5700 xt 16 GB RAM and the B550 Gaming Plus motherboard from Msi. Can you explain to me exactly how it works with finding out the error?

Em

So with the hardware, Fortnite would have to run consistently with over 60+ FPS, even in 4k UHD and with very high detail settings. However, it is normal that the FPS in the games fluctuate, sometimes even quite violently, since it always depends on the computational effort for the current scene. The internet connection also plays an important role in online games and can cause delays. The use of WLAN can also play a role here.

https://systemanforderungen.com/spiel/fortnite

Here you can check your hardware to see how well it should work with Fortnite.

Vi

Yes, the tool can also be used for OC… Most of the time, however, it is used to determine performance or to find errors.

There are very good YT videos on how to use Afterburner.

And Fortnite currently has massive problems since the latest se

Ac

With Fortnite they are also extreme and with the others less common and weaker

Ac

And how do you know that Fortnite is having such problems at the moment

Ac

Have a LAN connection HDD can make a difference?

Em

How much FPS does Fortnite run with you on average and how far down do the frame drops go? And yes, an HHD can have an impact. When reloading data and exporting data from the main memory, there may be short delays, which can also manifest as frame drops. From here I can't determine whether it is the cause, but it would be possible. And even if you use LAN, that doesn't mean that you have a good and stable internet connection. Your LAN eventually ends at your router. That too is only one possibility.

Ac

I have an average of 150 fps at medium settings and the drops go down to 10

Em

That's pretty tough. You can pay attention to whether the HDD LED on the PC case flashes frequently or lights up permanently during these extreme break-ins. Then HDD write / read accesses are happening. This can indicate that a slow HDD actually causes the system to stall.

In the task manager under "Performance" you can watch the course of the data carrier, whether there are suspicious data carrier accesses during the frame drops.

https://www.wintotal.de/task-manager-von-windows-10/

If this turns out to be the cause, then it does not necessarily have to be due to the HDD, there can also be various useless processes that load the system or the hard drive. I don't know what gimmicks you have installed on your computer.

Ac

I'll do it tomorrow, thank you for your help first, is not a matter of course.

I'll report tomorrow if something can be seen

Ac

So I closed a lot of background programs and now there aren't many more besides Windows, I also checked the HDD but the load is not high in the Task Manager, I also put it on the SSD to see whether it works better, but other than the loading screens were shorter, not much happened.

Do you know how to find out a defect in the components?

Em

I don't really believe in a defect, because your system is too stable for that. Then your PC would stop working at all or keep crashing. The graphics card is also in the top PCIe slot? There are people who simply lower the graphics card, for whatever reason, but the lower PCIe x16 slots are usually only connected with two or four PCIe lanes, so they are actually PCIe x16 @ x2 / x4 slots. Plugged in there, the graphics card can be slowed down properly if not enough data is supplied to calculate. Do you also have such frame drops in games that are not played online? Your internet connection is the only thing I can think of, otherwise I have to pass, I'm sorry.

Ac

Yes, for example in Terraria and how do you see where it is plugged in?

Em

If you didn't have the graphics card installed, then you probably have an OEM ready-made PC. Usually the OEMs already install a graphics card in the top PCIe slot. Otherwise, the only thing that helps is unscrew the PC and see where the graphics card is inside. This should be the top PCIe x16 slot that is closest to the processor.